Democracy of Hope, Jeremi and Zachary Suri
This is Democracy
This is Democracy – Episode 273: Venezuela Elections
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This is Democracy – Episode 273: Venezuela Elections

A paradox of our geopolitical moment is that the more we seek justice, sanctions, and punishment of criminal rulers, the more we leave corrupt dictators with nothing left to lose by more oppression.
Protestor in Venezuela. Image: Carlos Diaz, via Wikimedia Commons

This is Democracy: The Paradox That Empowers Dictators

The incentives that the world’s democracies create for dictators to cling to power are a painful reality, a geopoltical paradox. These circumstances are unlikely to change soon in the case of the dictatorship in Venezuela.

So argues Professor Kurt Weyland in this wide-ranging conversation with Jeremi and Zachary. The discussion surveys the path to power of autocratic leader Nicolas Maduro, the dim prospects for Maduro’s departure despite global consensus that his July election victory was a sham, and the weakness of sanctions as a policy tool.

“The international community says we don’t accept corruption. We don’t accept human rights violations anymore. And so the international community has threatened to indict Maduro and a whole bunch of his underlings for their human rights violations, for their corruption, for their involvement in drug trafficking – not only the U.S. but also the International Criminal Court,” Weyland explains in this episode of This is Democracy. “And so that whole mafia in power essentially feels compelled to stay in power because if they were to lose power, they go to jail.”

Weyland, the Mike Hogg Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, writes widely on democratization and is the author of seven books on the subject. The latest is Democracy's Resilience to Populism's Threat: Countering Global Alarmism, published in April. It explores the ways democracy is resilient, and how the successful efforts to overturn democracies are the exception and not the rule. 

In this sober discussion with Jeremi and Zachary, Weyland is somewhat bleak. He praises the courage of Venezuela's opposition leaders, but sees little chance that the current dictatorship will give way.  The paradox of Venezuela illustrates a larger worldwide challenge, a dilemma without clear options for democracy’s advocates and defenders.

Please have a listen to this important conversation, or read the transcript.

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Democracy of Hope, Jeremi and Zachary Suri
This is Democracy
The future of democracy is uncertain, but we are committed to its urgent renewal today. This podcast will draw on historical knowledge to inspire a contemporary democratic renaissance. The past offers hope for the present and the future, if only we can escape the negativity of our current moment — and each show will offer a serious way to do that! This podcast will bring together thoughtful voices from different generations to help make sense of current challenges and propose positive steps forward. Our goal is to advance democratic change, one show at a time. Dr. Jeremi Suri, a renown scholar of democracy, will host the podcast and moderate discussions.